Kowie fireworks display plans under fire

Where do I get to see a copy of this email? I’m a born-again Christian — and and animal lover and am VERY ANTI fireworks.
Sorry, Andre – I respect and love you as a man of God because I am obedient to the bible. But I don’t LIKE you at all!

Please read Proverbs 12:10 – “a righteous man regards the life of his beast”

Although fireworks do leave children in a masgicland for a few minutes and the grownups in a illfated partymode that might lead to much festivity the money spent on that 15 minutes could be beter spent. And a Pastor on top of it! Will all the children in his congregation have food and a small present over Christmas? My dogs is totally out of character for a few days after such an episode. East Beach might not be centre of the town but it is still in surrounded by houses and campers.

oh yes – here’s an idea for Halyards to tell everyone that CHR1STmas has begun – how about a part for the kids in the informal settlements – not from SIYANCEDA (river park project) – but from HALYARDS. Give each kid sweeties and a doll/car/some toy that is not cheap cr4p —– or some old people that have nothing – like a facecloth and soap ….. effects will last much longer than the ooooohs and aaaaahs of 15 minutes of fzzzzzz wooooop zzzzssst.

Ja, Mary I agree. At the Hemingways one a few years back even my dog that was mostly deaf was under the bed shaking. Now a normal dog with full hearing…….

Bet old Eddie Botha can’t wait to write his Monday column now about how much it cost from the poor congregation …… sneer sneer.

Jan, when do we get the blog comments back on the Home page?

So we carry on using christianity to enrich ourselves. River Park, River Hotels, River Air River…. whatever. What an absolute joke.

I agree with some of the above. My dogs are TERRIFIED of crackers and go totally beserk when the crackers fo off – I don’t think people realize how sensitive a dogs ears are. My dogs are skittish about ½ an hour before a thunder storm hits our actual area – that just goes to show from how far away they can already hear it coming!!!!!! I also agree rather buy something for the old age people that have nothing or something for children from the informal settlements – I think it would be much more appreciated by them than the 15mins of FUN to be had by a few. With the price of crackers I am sure that quite a lot can be bought for that amount of money!!!!! Happy holidays to all.

sorry should be …”when the crackers go off….”

seems that for him to show his own greatness is more important than doing things that would really and truly bless people. Fireworks are burnt up, gone and soon forgotten, but acts of kindness like reaching out to someone in need will not soon be forgotten.

Ja you may not go to hell for letting of the firecrackers but you’ll sure smell like it!

Ag ja, all church people are not necessarily real Christians.
Some use their institutions as a means to milk others and enrich themselves, and to hell with the rest.
Like some politicians you can never change them.

I know! Let’s all record our dogs howling, nad hide all of them in the bushes and trees of the halyards to be played at FULL volume outside the guest rooms at night – and we will hide em well so they can’t find them

FIRSTLY: Sandy Birch has the right approach, offer a more appropriate Christmas celebration. Carols by candlelight has my blessing.
SECONDLY: Who the hell does Roebert think he is calling the objectors names!! Not a very good Christian but a very good Salesman I must conclude, selling afterlife policies out of his “River Ministry” empire.

Wouldn’t it be nice if Andre publically apologized for offending so many people with his poor choice of words and thoughts. The pessimist in me says it won’t happen but it would send out a better message from the River. I’m certainly one of the ‘grumpy’ ones and a believer in Christ. While I don’t say fireworks are bad, I do think shooting your mouth off is human nature and can be corrected with an apology.

peecee – please elaborate on your afterlife policy comment?

Fireworks should be outlawed. Period. I know that if I was a resident of Port Alfred, Halyards would be recieving the Vet’s Bills for the pre- and post- display treatments of my animals.
Sheer arrogance to call any objectors derogatory names.

Rear end – I agree 100%. That was the case when I was young – at least to a greater extent, and I think they should be totally outlawed myself.

We need a balance with some tolerance and consideration here from both sides. Most people do not have pets or keep animals in captivity. They prefer them in their natural habitat. Many people who do have animals neglect them badly,especially over the season, according to the SPCA (who can also do with our financial support. ) I am not suggesting that we have a blanket prohibition of all pets because some are a public nuisance, but their neglect by some is a far bigger problem than a specified 15 minute fireworks display in a safe area. You can now get fireworks that are greatly reduced in noise but are more spectacular to view . So it is possible for both sides to be accommodated ….with far less noise and huff and puff all round !

LOL MUGABE!!!! I was a bit POd with you but then I took it with the spirit it was intended…. but seriously – why should we have to? Would there be like this mass exodus in P.A. (and perhaps shut off all the incoming traffic to this private affair of Andre’s…..)

Why dont people put Christ back into Christmas. Yes, Christmas is a celebration of the birth if Christ, however most do not understand the meaning of it. It has become (sadly) a glorified party. Someone once asked me what I was giving him for Christmas, I explained that Christmas is a time of giving, NOT receiving (which is now taken for granted). If I am going to spoil anyone, I am going to spoil myself!

@ Bongani101 — good one — I agree fully. It has also become a time of the year when the death rate from accidents increase, alcohol-fuelled crimes spiral, families break up, financial stress drives people to despair, etc. etc. That’s not what it should be. It should be a stress-free time of happiness and recreation.

Yep, commercialism has destroyed the real meaning…

http://www.dailystab.com/three-deatghs-reported-on-black-friday/

We hear our government being critical of the west yet we love the culture… at least the parts that suit us.

Well let me say this… the people who live in Port Alfred tend to be more “verkramp” than ever before. I might not agree with Roebert on all things but look at it this way. At least the man is trying to do something good for the town. I recall the days in the mid 90’s when the opening of the festive season was something to look forward to in EL. Huge firework displays lit the sky’s. Good memories and truly made good memories.

Port Alfred what the hell is it with you people ? If the surfers dont want to moer the non-local for surfing on “their” beaches, some verkrampte old timers want to moan about fire works. To the SPCA ! If you want to ban everything that could hurt frighten or scare animals, why not start with the following list -

* Cars
* Guns
* Other animals
* Criminals who feed the pets poison
* Load music from cars
* Motorcycles

I can give you a list.

I happens once a year in a controlled environment.

Now we can officially call PA – Port Verkramp…..

You people are worse than a group of fat laties at weight watchers convertion fighting ofer a pizza !

@ JOE CITIZEN stop bible bashing or you might get a big bang in your post box !

Some idiot reported my previous post – obviuously it made to much sense. Whoever you are, u need light in your life.

Joe – there doesnt need to be a mass exodus, its 15mins for crying out loud. Taking them for a drive is ONE of a few ways to distract your pets.

And to your question why should you have too? How about for the rest of the people who WANT to watch the show – for 15min! Is 15min to much to ask from pet owners?

Gadg if you had any brains you would realise that my comment was aimed at AR, but then you always were a silly billy. I would say you had a bee in your bonnet but then you’d probably read the wrong thing into that as well. Sigh, poor silly tool.

For PA it would be classed as a mass exodus!

Gadget – nice post china.

Yeah Port Alfred has gone to the dogs. We skip it completely when I tour with the band. There used to be a vibey little bar but one of the “verkrampte” people sitting on town council managed to shut it down. They can keep there crumbling marina and dirty water. There are other places in SA that dont take themselves so seriously that are a real pleasure to visit. (LIKE EAST LONDON WOOT!)

Mugabe – I agree WHOLE HEARTEDLY !

River Ministries again! Mmmm! Well, some of the old bloggers know my thoughts on that lot. And so much for Christ-like attitude Pastor Roebert! Keep going.
PeeCee…I like your second comment and my husband and I think the same thing.

But back to the fire works. Seriously! If everybody knows the time – lock up your animals. I don’t like fireworks myself because of my cats and dog, but I take note of time, lock them in the house with us and calm them down by playing music loudly and simply stroking them. They survive it.
Although I gotta agree with some readers…..Really River Ministries….spend that kind of money where it is actually of some benefit not just a pretty display for 15 minutes….if it is not raining. Past few xmas’ it has rained, whats a bet it will again.

Wow VEE! A sensible pet owner! Everybody take note! Kudo’s.

It’s more Andre’s attitude that I think has people annoyed Vee! I think they can make a plan for the animals, those little white pills work wonders – but Andre as usual is being arrogant.
However, I would not appreciate having to dope my animals in anticipation of this event.

”a damp squid” – Jan Hennop your spellchecker is as fishy as an old hooker’s underwear.

Hello People – its not Pastor Andre Roebert – but Mr Andre Roebert – the hotel magnate (sort of the Eastern Cape’s Sol Kerzner) and what he does with his money from his hotel empire is his business not yours – and of course the money he makes form Julius Malema’s visit etc. You are al jealous because you are not as clever as him and you don’t have as much money as him. Have you ever seen how small his church actually is – don’t be fooled – he is a business man who happens to shepherd a church …Diversify!!!

Gadget Man you also worked for a pastor / empire builder in PE – you know how they do things!

I thought all squids were damp? Particularly Spongebob’s neighbour. He’s so wet he’d pee-off his neighbours by having a firewoerks display.
Hang on! Isn’t this where we came in?

EC’s answe to Sol Kerzner? I don’t think so. Surely Sam Nassimov has a better claim to that title.
But id you were to suggest that Pasto Andre was a Ray McCauley-wannabbe, I’d give you that one.

Bob you are right – In most cases these guys do have their days BUT…. sometimes they try and do something worthwhile.
I am not all for what he stands for.. but as I said I think its a great idea and creates a great festive spirit for those in the town… apart from the verkrampte old toppies that is !!

I will personally send them stale rum pudding for christmas lunch !

Hahaha Gavin, didn’t see that one – I need to point that out to the reporter who wrote the story. Will fix it. – Online News Ed.

Mr Roebert and his family own property all over the Eastern Cape – just check their River Hotels site – and thats not including all the flats in Southernwood and the on the coast other side the airport … Property Baron – well done Mr R – keep storing up for your self riches here on earth …

To the folks insisting that it’s a verkrampte attitude that doesn’t want fireworks, I say you are not looking at the other side of the story AT ALL. Being ignorant of the animal terror that fireworks are is no excuse for animal abuse.

Anyway, if the people who live there are happy to be, shall we say, sticks-in-the-mud, then that’s up to them, isn’t it? They might not want some ramblin’ muso’s to disturb the peace and quiet; they certainly don’t seem to need some visiting preacher making loud noises and providing explosive lights. After all, they are the rate-payers, aren’t they?
If some of the other residents think they’re wrong, then they have the right to be heard also. So far, we seem to to be hearing from the Peace And Quiet Party.

James – It happens once a year, unless you have Indian Larry next door – mabey twice.
Its not as if the local Spar is going to be stocking up on wheelbarrow loads of skyrockets and big band. Dont always use the pets as an excuse !

Why not ban all the other things that scare and even worse KILL animals ?

Dont hide behind the dog issue because all you geriatrics in Port Verkramp want the town all to yourself. Ever been to PE during the Splash Festival ?

Yeah Gadget i agree with you on that one. Everytime ive been in PA its been ice cold. You really do get the feeling they want the town all to themselves. Its a horrible little dorpy. They are constantly in the news for all the wrong reasons. Blue flag beach se foot!

Tell you what… Let them ban the fire works because of verkrampte old toppies and their stoepkakkertjies, as long as next time I am on the beach and I see a dog taking a DUMP on the sand, the owner of this lovely pooch will allow me to strap a pack of burning ladybirds to his dogs tail, while I shove a big bang up the owners wazoo ! SOUNDS FAIR !

You are quick to throw your walking sticks and loose your false teaath about how scared you stoep kakkers will be beacasue of the noise, but dont think twice to allow your dogs to cr@p on the beach !

LOL!! hahahaha funny dude… stoepkakkertjies hahahahaha.

While you’re defending the rights of Jill Public to walk on unpolluted beaches, perhaps you’d like to tie fireworks to the collective derrieres of BCM who continue to pour raw sewage into the ocean off Nahoon & Eastern Beaches? Start with the sh!t on our own doorsteps first, ne?

Gadget, You obviously do not have any animals. The saying goes that a person who has no love for animals has no soul. It is also said that petting an animal is de-stressing. Get yourself a doggie or a moggie! You will feel better about yourself.

Will be more than willing to ! Exept if they dont do their bit, dont use it as an excuse to let your dog sh1t where my child has a right to play. I dont go to your house and take a dump on your doorstep now do I ????

Gadget, I have seen children taking a dump where animals have the right to play!

Well then castrate the dad as thats his problem for allowing it ! My kid has manners ! Bottom line, there will always be one or two that will spoil it for every one. Same thing happened in PA when the F1 boats wanted to race. Because of a few rich verkrampte toffs in the marina that were not willing to move their jetty’s, which by the way they only used once a frikkin year, the race has been cancelled. Over a half a million rands worth of investment lost for the verkrampte residents of PA.

The worst bunch of stuck up people EVER. I think if there had be a vote on the worst verkrampte little place to visit on the EC coast PA would win hand down. Its definately the dark cloud in the sunny sunshine coast…

Verkrampte geriatrics, stoepkakkertjies and all !

Be nice to Rev Pastor Roebert – remember over 10 000 people gace their lives to jesus after their Days of Glory campaign – at which every night they took up an offering …

Really….why not light up the lives of some that would appreciate it rather than light up some gun powder. think about it!

JUSTATHOUGHT – Good thought ! But thats not the point !

Dont use moral justification to protect the cause of the verkrampte few

i’m not. i’m thinking about the animals as well, …….and why not?

Bob with respect – im not a christian. I dont respect what any churches have done in the past or present.

Religion serves only to divide people on context of belief not to unite them. Libraries are filled with history books that show the true face of mankind. The real devil is us and the God we so blisfully ignore is the earth we pollute, our brothers we kill and sisters we rape. No man will lead me.

River Park is one church that continues to collect bad press and general opinion amoungst people is, its a self serving church. The churches leaders are arrogant, they blatantly mock and taunt people who stand against them. This is not the way of Godliness no matter what religion you… well except satanism ofcourse. The true God of that church is money. Dont be fooled.

And id say another one of the river park employees monitoring this blog will report it and have it banned pretty soon.

It would seem like Andre Roebert isn’t happy unless he is able to create noise or disturbance of sorts. If not with a fireworks display, then at the local malls. A few years back, I recall being in the same movie theatre as him, his wife, children, and entourage of nannies/bodyguards etc etc. I happened to be seated on the aisle of the row that he apparently wanted to occupy, and that threw him into a complete fannywobble. He looked at me and said ‘We normally use this row.’ Now…first things first…I, and one other person, were the only occupants in the theatre at the time, so there were plenty other rows for him and the entourage to occupy. Secondly, seats were not reserved/allocated for anyone at that particular moviehouse. I looked right back up at him and replied, ‘Seeing as though I don’t see your name on this particular row, you might want to shove off and sit elsewhere. Seats are taken on a first come first serve basis. Have a nice day.’

The look on his face would have curdled custard…

Seriously though, I have no respect for him and his empire/organisation that is apparently being run under the auspices of a church. It is purely a ‘for profit’ setup.

After the movie theatre incident, we had friends who were part of his business organisation ( I refuse to call it a church, because churches help and care for others), and they were sitting in one of his services, when he made a statement from the front of the room that said, “If you are not tithing to this church/organisation, I do not want you in the church as a member.”

Needless to say, our friends have never set foot back there again.

He is a prime example of the verse in God’s Word regarding ‘peddling the word of God for a profit’ and he will see his ass at the pearly gates for it one day too.

Scary though…how much he reminds one of the rich, spoiled cousin from the Richie Rich comics from a few years back, Reggie van Dough.

Cyclepath, you should run for mayor, id vote for you. Tonight when i sit with my family and i discuss how i did nothing all day except blog, im going to raise a toast in your honour.

Thanks a stack Mugabe. So many people out there are too afraid to say things as they are, in case they ‘offend’ someone. It’s about time people said exactly what came to mind, instead of stewing over it.

Mugabe – you may want to check my postings wrt to 2 other blogs in today’s edition…the 2 regarding the water issues…let me know if you would still give me the mayoral vote! A woman in possession of a paintball gun, and common sense…could be a rather lethal combination in a position of authority!

CYCLEPATH – Tell the truth and shame the devil….or in this case pastor Roebert (the false profit)

Cyclepathe – Dont deviate from the topic. This is not a Roepert bashing forum. The fireworks display also ahs nothing todo with the church.

Gavin Taylor, I agree with you it is false to say Pastor Roebert makes any profit out of the church. We know he supports this church work and numerous charities from his very successful business enterprises and hard work, like his father Bernard and grand-father Reuben did before him. He is a true prophet who both preaches and practises his faith. I prefer the way he does good things to the way others do nothing .

Gadget, You seriously need help. You are bordering on the phsyco/manic depressive edge. See someone as soon as possible!

This man (Roebert) has more money than sense. Does anyone have any idea how much a fireworks display will cost? Money that could help those less fortunate than the ones who have enough to squander on a fireworks display. Businessman my white buttttt. hypocrite more like….

GadgetBRfm, for one who has so many posts in the Dispatch blogs, one would surely think that by now, you would actually learn to spell. By your comment, one would actually wonder if you are perhaps a member of the aforementioned corporation? I shall refrain from further comment with you, as I do not want to say anything inappropriate. As they say, never argue with an intellectually challenged individual, as they will merely drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

I love fireworks, always have and always will. Takes me back to my childhood when we use to have them on the school sports field. Mind you at the back of the field was open fields etc.

I think having fireworks is a lovely idea, and what would be even better is to invite the children of underprivileged parents to join in with the festivities. Provide them with a cooldrink, lollies and even a boerewors roll and for a moment let them have their time. They may not have much else for the rest of the Christmas season, while we sit down to turkey, veg, pudding and gifts.

Yes I sympathize with animal lovers, but surely if they are locked up in your homes, the curtains closed they should be fine. My animals have always been fine in this instance.

Having attended a huge fireworks display last year on a farm, animals were kept out of harms way, children thoroughly enjoyed it, including the toasted marshallows afterwards, no one was stupid enough to get drunk or anything, there were designated drivers amongst friends and it was wonderful. This year, no fireworks, not because we cannot, extreme firehazzard, 5 year drought and it cannot be risked, otherwise all would be go ahead. Even the major attended in 2007

The only difference between God and Andre is that God does not think he is Andre. When is everybody going to see through this man and that enjoys the fruits of HIS church for himself. GO BACK TO EAST LONDON AND STAY THERE.

Church is a place some people go to on Sunday to pray that the crop of wild oats they have sown during the week fails!

Dave,

Andre hardly makes any money form the church but makes a fortune form the rentals he makes on his properties and the income form his 47 businesses he owns – and of course TBN – which he runs as his “cash cow” – but then to the victor the spoils!!! SARS has audited River Corporation and all is legal. Just because you don’t like Andre or his empire does not make it illegal!

As sid, I don’t like Andre but I do love him. I do NOT attend his church. However, I have seen that he is very clever with business/money – and has been able to turn a small fortune into a large fortune. I think most people don’t like the fact that he is both a PASTOR and a BUSINESSMAN. I once heard himsay he did not want the church to struggle and uses a lot of the businesses for his own income as well as to fund the church. The church will be registered as an NPO – which is audited each year by dept social development. I know he has an awful smirky attitude but you know what – we all have imperfections. He reminds me of one of these shady 60ies gansgter con men that wore the pin stripes and hat —- but at the end of the day I have my own life to account for. And my animals. And gadget, thanks for the big bang — that’s two weeks now that some one has been throwing fire crackers at the dogs in our neighbourhood. Wonder if you should be the official suspect?

oh yes – has anyone got hold of that email yet?

Here is one of the emails:

Dear Marina Owner/Port Alfred Residents

We wish to set the records straight from the email received from the Marina Manager- Angus Schlemmer dated 13/11/09 as the facts have been incorrectly relayed to you:

1) RIVER HOTELS and Not River Ministries has been in conversation with the Mayor Vukile Balura over the sponsoring of the Opening of the Season on Friday Night the 11th December

2) This has nothing to do with River Ministries and it is THE RIVER GROUP. (not as Stated)

3) Been the Biggest Hotel Group involved in Hospitality in our Area, and having seen Port Alfred grow over the past few years we felt to do something for the Town in return, thus the sponsoring of the this Event.

4) Every City in most of South Africa and the World at some time or the other has a Fireworks display (and we all love them) – Surly we could rise to the occasion this season and have one too.

5) It will ONLY be 15MINUTES from 10pm to 10:15pm on the night of 11 December 2009 (not 30 minutes as stated)

6) We in association with ‘Talk of the Town’ as well as ‘Eastern Cape Today’ and the ‘Kowie Bugle’ as well as ‘Kowie FM’ will be notifying all concerned parties that this event will take place, so the necessary precautions can be instituted for all pets big and small – (this is more than what you get every time a STORM with Lightning comes over – who could ever say God does not DO fireworks!)

7) The Idea is to work in conjunction with the BRIDGE and have a great a 15 minute time to light up the sky for all to see.

Everyone from every location will be able to look into the Kowie Valley and know the’ SEASON HAS BEGUN’

9) Please note that ALL necessary License and Permissions will be obtained before one Firework goes off – This is more than I can say for NEW Years Eve.

10) We will have The Fire Department on STANDBY and all the necessary distances will be adhered to STRICTLY.

11) KOWIE FM will be broadcasting the music for the Fireworks LIVE as they are happening so everyone can tune in their Radios to the music of the Fireworks Display. Thank you KOWIE FM.

12) This event will also coincide with the Year end Party of the River Group to be held on the Grass of The Halyards Hotel (by invitation only)

13) The Manager and staff of the Willows Caravan Park, is In Complete SUPPORT with this. Space has allocated for this from them. Not what was reported to you.

The Question that remains is this?

Does the Town of Port Alfred want to have something special to start the season or not? Let us leave this decision with the town Councilors.

If not then we will walk away, but NOT for one or two grumpy old individuals, who have no vision to even try to improve anything and always try to keep the town behind.

To these individuals we ask that you close your curtains and please DO NOT PEEP at the great display of Celebration over our town on FRIDAY 11th December at 10pm.

This is a Gesture of GOODWILL from all of us at The River Group to Port Alfred as this is naturally a time of giving, and it will be at the same time when we give the hundreds of Food parcels and gifts away to the poor and needy – a little more than most grumpy complainers ever do.

With such a hard economically challenging year of 2009 behind us, do you not think this town needs some Cheer!!

You decide – Your support would be appreciated please let us know?

All emails in support to: director@riverhotels.co.za

All emails not in support send them somewhere else.

Thank you

Andre Roebert

CEO River Group

Wow – what a considerate and humble man is Andre Roebert – After all he has done for the economy of the eastern cape – with 47 companies – surely give the man his moment to show off!

For James. Life insurance, sold by salesmen for payout to your chosen benefactor after your death. Afterlife insurance, sold by pastors for their own benefit during your life, sometimes even after.

Cyclepath, unlike you who sit at work using your bosses time to blog, I do so in my own on my mobile phone, which is a bit difficult to do with a burger in the one hand, and a cell phone in the other while driving with my knees having to swerve to avoid the ruaral folk in the Transkei, non the less. Your absolute perfect spelling and English linguistic ( kak spelling I know ) perfection is overtaken in leaps and bounds by your inability to seperate your hate for River Ministries from business. Get a life a grow a brain. I can recommend a great lobotomy surgeon. Worked wonders on my ex mother inlaw.

@ DAVE – R u one of the verkrampte old toppies in Port Verkramp ?

Hi folks. There has been a lot said about Pastor Andre Roebert and River Ministries on this post.
I would like to point out the following please which once again highlights the ambit of making comments on this blog:

1. Let’s debate the issue, not the personalities involved.

2. No hate speech will be tolerated.

3. Instead of becoming emotional about things, let’s try to keep a clear head and discuss the story like adults.

So having said that, let’ stay within the boundaries of decency and play nicely. – Online News Editor

@Gadget – Liefie, you forgot that those “verkrampte” or as I would say verpoepte old toppies in PA make more from their investments in a month that what you and I would make in a year. Those are rich bliksems that don’t want their rich lives disrupted by the disorderly conduct of the common man. Remember those houses on the marina are nothing under R5 mil a pop. So now you can see why they’re verpoep!!!!!!!!!!!!

Teagan , I think youre right, But I think its the calls from the bank manager about outstanding payments on the big house on the marina & the fishing boat that makes them so verkramp.

@ MAggi – Great to hear some contructive comments. Just keep in mind that most firework displays are held overe the ocean. Rockets and other explosives are shot off over the water as it takes care of the fire hazard !

Wow, what sort of “sissie” dogs do you people have??
My dogs love fireworks!!

Lock your mutts up for 15 minutes and allow the town some enjoyment.!!

Scary how many idiots are around like Mugabe (name says it all) Gadget whatever and Taegan (so sad that you so jealous of people who have brains). Obviously this is not your town and you only think of yourselves, so do us a favor and keep driving right thru and take Roebert and his stupid fireworks with you. We dont need Roebert to let us know when the season has begun, we are quite capable of figuring it out for ourselves when the prices on the Halyards board go UP !!!!

Do not cause anyone to stumble, whether Jews, Greeks or the church of God, 1 Corinthians 10:32 in otherwords if it causes people to turn away from Christianity then it obviously not a wise thing to do, just dont do it if its causing such a big issue and do something else, why instead make a mountain out of a mole hill.

The River Hotel Group is to be highly commended for sponsoring the PA Municipality’s project. The fireworks display is intended to usher in the holiday season and to welcome the many visitors who make such an important contribution to the town’s chief industry,viz. tourism. Even the dogs in the street know they are dependent upon this trade for their year-round welfare. EL,we are losing out to younger brains . Ag, pleeez Andre, won’t you come and wake us up and give us a fireworks display too ? Juslaik ! look at that,Ma! Isn’t it lekker !

@ Joe Citizen 2 – My friend if you had any braincells left after your head had swollen to twice it’s size because you’re in with the “it crown” you would realize that I had been sarcastic and not envious of your money. My friend, money can buy you a lot of things but never love or class and at this stage seing as you have no brains on balls which by the way might be “verrimpeled” by this time, I think I have the class & you have nothing.

If you have people in PA like you then I’ll stay on the road & not give you a second thought & carry on towards PE, easily but Beavers does still make the best pies in the Eastern Cape.

So the moral of the story is to actually call you Peabrain Joe Citizen 2 as you can not distinguish between sarcasim & a envy of those that have all the eminities in life.

Take your head out of your arse and look at the world. You’re not the only one on it or should I rather say come down to earth you pompous rich ass.

Joe Citizen 2 – Interesting Profile name… Didnt require to many braincells to think that one up now did it.
Obviously you are one of the verkarampte few !

You know what, Its people like you that makes us want to KEEP ON DRIVING. But then again not all people in PA are idiots. Luckily ! Other wise I would KEEP ON DRIVING !

Please make sure you take the blinkers off when you cross the towns one an only traffic light – Which isnt working !

Beaver proves that not all in Port Alfred have carrots stuck in their Wazoo’s.

Pastor you were very good a quoting what famous men have said but never mentioned wht a very bgreat man Ghandi said .you judge a man,s sole by the way he treats his ANIMALS .

Brian – good comment quoting from a man who didnt eat meat…. once again Brian its not abot the ministry here…. Its about the business. Seperate the two

And Brian … Just for the record , I think its “soul”, unless youre referring to the cow hide my Nike’s are made from ?